So there has been posts about the Trahern's on my blog. They start here and encompass about 6 posts. Some of that will be repeated here, but since I went so in depth in the past, I won't be as thorough here.
Margaret Trahern the wife of Jason Arthur Adams was born in 1880 in the Skullyville district of the Choctaw Nation. Her home was likely not located far from Trahern Station which was in current Leflore County, Oklahoma. Margaret died in Tulsa in 1955.
Margaret was the second child of Robert Trahern and his wife Cornelia Gardner. Margaret and all her siblings enrolled as 1/2 Choctaws on the Dawes Roll of Choctaw Indians. It probably wasn't accurate. Descendants of all the children say there ancestors were "full bloods" though that is impossible. They were probably around 3/4, if Cornelia Gardner was indeed a full blood. Based on the only lead I have for her, she was as close to it as she could get.
Robert and Cornelia Trahern's children were Admona (Addie), Margaret, Serena (Rena), Loren, Martha and William Trahern.
Robert Trahern was a son of James N. Trahern and Sarah Hall. He was born around 1849 and he died in 1899. I suspect that he and his brother Joseph were killed at the same time. I know our family believed he was shot over land. Unlike his brothers Lysander and James, there is nothing suggesting Robert was an upstanding individual. He was tried for attempted murder at Fort Smith, and family tales have him as a boot legger, which is probably true.
Cornelia Gardner I think is the daughter of Samuel Gardner and his wife Mary. Samuel has a girl in his home on the censuses for Towson to suggest that this is a valid theory. She was born about 1860. Samuel Gardner and Mary had in 1856 Nancy (Nicy?), Loring Nolen and Sissy Gardner. In 1868 he has a son Loring's age and a daughter under 16 with no wife. In 1874 Sam had married Isabelle Durant and had a son, Basil Gardner, the census shows a male under 10, 2 males age 21-45 (Loring and Sam) and 2 females over 16.
I have not found any paper documenting this relationship, but it's the strongest because of the name. Loring Gardner and Loren Trahern, and Loren also names a daughter Serena, the true name of Rena in our family. No other Gardner's have names similar to Cornelia's family.
Samuel Gardner should be a son of John Gardner and Alatoma, and John Gardner would be a son of James Gardner and Margaret. But that is speculative at this point.
James N. Trahern was the son of James Trahern, a Virginian, and Peggy. He was born around 1814 and died in 1883. His wife Sarah Hall was the daughter of William Hall and Susan Riddle. She was born around 1818 and died in 1873.
James Trahern and the Virginia bunch I will refer to the previous blog posts that I already linked.
Peggy was the daughter of Nahotima and a white trader. Personally I favor Thomas James as the most probable at this point. She was born in the early 1770's and had her first child with Charles Juzan around 1793. She had one full sister, Delilah who had five children. Both women were named in the Supplement to the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek. Thanks primarily to the efforts of their relatives, her half sister's sons James L. McDonald and Robert M. Jones, and hopefully through the efforts of her son Pierre Juzan.
Peggy had half siblings from both her father and her mother. (DO NOT EVEN BRING UP THE LEFLORE FAMILY THEY AREN'T PART OF THIS LINE) Through her father she had a half sister named Molly who was the mother of Alexander Hamilton and James L. McDonald, one named Sally who was married to Middleton Mackey and the mother of his eldest children including David Mackey, and unknown named sister who was the mother of Robert M. Jones. It is possible that Sally had a son with John McKee too.
Through her mother her half siblings were Tappenahoma and Oklahoma both leaders in the Kunsha clan, her brother Tappenahoma succeeded her Uncle Pushmataha upon his death. I no longer believe Nitakechi is a relative, though most historians have suspected that from the succession. I think they are unrelated. Shanke is also quite possibly a half sister to Peggy. I have lists of the descendants of all of these folks from documented sources, including Pushmataha. Most of what you read elsewhere (Running Deer, Favre, Anderson, Leflore) is rumors and has no documentation.
William Hall the father of Sarah Hall was a mixed blood choctaw. He had at least two sisters, Margaret who married John Ring and Amos W. Geary and Sarah who married Jeremiah Gardner. His family is a bit unusual, they are early to marry within white society and were educated and could read. Margaret was a teacher with the missionaries according to records. Margaret had no children, but Sarah and William both did.
I have no idea who William Hall relates to on both the Hall or Choctaw side at this point. He married Susan Riddle, a niece of Mushulatubbee, which would probably indicate he had some sort of favored or elite status. William Hall and Susan Riddle according to their tomb stone were born in 1793. They are buried at Skullyville Cemetery, which originally was part of their land.
Three of the Hall sons were killed in 1860 or 1861 by a slave uprising, the remaining family sold their land and slaves after that before the end of the civil war. Most were bought by Walker Folsom. Of the Hall family, we only have traceable descendants for Jane Hall who was the second wife of David Folsom, Margaret Hall who married William Moncrief, Sarah Hall and Katherine Hall who married Thomas Wall and Tandy Stephens.
Susan Riddle the mother of Sarah Hall was also a mixed Choctaw. Her parents were William Riddle, a white man and Caty, a sister of Mushulatubbee. Susan's brothers were sent to the mission school at Mushulatubbee's and a letter refers to them as his nephews.
Caty's sister was the mother of Sophia Folsom and Joseph and Andrew Kincade. Based on a Choctaw trading post debtor list, her name may have been Rebecca. Letters from John Pitchlynn in 1808 link John Kincade to the area, and I suspect he is the father of Joseph and Andrew. He was in trouble for selling alcohol, and it's about this time that his family ends up moving to Louisiana.
We know that Caty and Mushulatubbee had at least one more brother, Atoba who killed himself after he was acquitted of murder of a white. I found the original newspaper article where he wrote an apology to the white settlers. It is quite probable that there are more siblings that we don't know about.
Caty had with William Riddle daughters Lucinda, Susan and Mary, and sons William, John and Joseph. After the death of her husband, she married John Jones Sr with whom she had no children and she emigrated to the Choctaw Nation and died living near her son John Riddle.
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Saturday, February 4, 2017
Adams family (also Rogers)
My great grandmother Margaret Pauline Adams (aka Bonnie) was the daughter of Jason Adams and Margaret Trahern. She was born in 1907 in McCurtain, Oklahoma, and died in 1983 in Chicago. I will discuss her maternal side in a different post.
Jason Adams was the son of George Washington Adams and Louisa Rogers. He was born in 1867 in Shoal Creek, Arkansas, and died in 1930 in Barnsdall, Oklahoma. Jason was one of four sons, his siblings were Charles Marion, Simon Wylie and James Franklin Adams. The boys mother died in 1882 and the boys were left to fend for them selves by their father.
Jason married twice. His first wife was Amanda Sonora Ellington with which he had two children, Amos Franklin and Elsie Myrtle. With his second wife Margaret he had the following children, Samuel Jefferson, James Arthur, Curtis Hall, Margaret Pauline, Bertha Viola, Rena, Hattie, Oleon and Roverta Adams.
George Washington Adams is someone we have no idea on his parentage. Though DNA appears to be giving us some clues, George himself left few. He was born about 1840 in most likely Tennessee, and died in 1907 in Oklahoma. If I can recall the theory I will blog about it.
Louisa Rogers was a daughter of Henry Rogers and his wife Mahala Mariah. Here is where we get into one issue. A lot of people show Henry as John Henry, but there is no records that prove that was the case, so I will not use that. His wife is rumored to be a Rodgers, and I do have one family I think may be her lineage. I see trees out there with parents, but they have no source documentation. Remember to watch what you copy into your tree from ancestry.
Louisa Rogers was born 1842 in Hamilton County, TN. She was one of many children, her siblings were John Alexander, James Washington, Maranda, Edley Jackson, Henry, Lucinda, Joseph Jefferson, William Miles, Amey Ann and Susan Rogers. Her mother died around 1853 along with a sister and not long afterwards the family moved to Yell/Johnson areas of Arkansas near Mt. Magazine.
Henry Rogers was the second child of Joseph Rogers and his wife Susannah. Family researchers have her named Shue. I have blogged about Suzie in the past, you can find those posts here. A lot of what I am going to say I addressed in DNA discussions in posts from 2015 if you want to look back.
As for Mahala Mariah and her sister Mahala Amelia who married Edley, I have a theory. I believe it is possible that they are children of a John or William Rogers who lived in Hamilton county. He left a widow Mary and had the following verified children, George W. Rogers, Nancy Rogers Jackson (whose son married into Edley's family), and Miranda Rogers Jackson. If you look into Ephraim Hixson and Elisha Rodgers, these families are all related, the problem has been adequate records on the Rogers because of damages to the court houses.
Joseph Rogers and Susannah had four children, Lucinda, Louisa, Edley and Henry Rogers. We have had references to an 1842 court case verifying this for over 15 years (but never found an outcome). Joseph died by 1815 because Susannah and her new husband James Wallen were selling her dower portion of some land, the same land in the 1842 court case,
We don't know an age for Joseph, but he was at least 21 when he served as a witness on a deed in 1795. I suppose he was born sometime between 1765-1775. He was a son of Doswell (Dauswell) Rogers and his wife, who I believe DNA has proven is a daughter or relative of Elisha Wallen and Mary Blevins (DNA matching Blevins family alone on front half of a 74 cM segment, the rest matching descendants of that couple and descendants of Doswell Rogers from more than one child).
I blogged about that too.
Doswell Rogers Ydna has been linked to the Adduston Rogers and Catherine Doswell line from what I have been told. To be honest, I don't know those genealogies well enough, and the ydna listings aren't clear enough for me to give a path beyond Doswell.
We do share DNA with Thomas Rogers descendants who also names a son Doswell.
Joseph Rogers lived in Roane what would become Bledsoe (and later Hamilton) county TN. He also had records in Lee county, Virginia. Since a lot of what I would say was already written about, I will refer you to this post for information on the family of Joseph and Susanna.
After the death of Joseph, Susanna married James Wallen (a first cousin I believe of Joseph Rogers). She had several more children and records for the family are primarily located in McMinn county, TN. Her children with James were unknown son, Stephen Wallen, Thomas Wallen, John Wallen, Mary (Polly) Wallen Culpepper, and Nancy Wallen. We have triangulated DNA matches with descendants of Louisa Rogers and Henry Rogers with the descendants of Thomas Wallen. Additionally Thomas Wallen was a neighbor in Carroll county to Edley, Henry and Louisa Rogers.
Jason Adams was the son of George Washington Adams and Louisa Rogers. He was born in 1867 in Shoal Creek, Arkansas, and died in 1930 in Barnsdall, Oklahoma. Jason was one of four sons, his siblings were Charles Marion, Simon Wylie and James Franklin Adams. The boys mother died in 1882 and the boys were left to fend for them selves by their father.
Jason married twice. His first wife was Amanda Sonora Ellington with which he had two children, Amos Franklin and Elsie Myrtle. With his second wife Margaret he had the following children, Samuel Jefferson, James Arthur, Curtis Hall, Margaret Pauline, Bertha Viola, Rena, Hattie, Oleon and Roverta Adams.
George Washington Adams is someone we have no idea on his parentage. Though DNA appears to be giving us some clues, George himself left few. He was born about 1840 in most likely Tennessee, and died in 1907 in Oklahoma. If I can recall the theory I will blog about it.
Louisa Rogers was a daughter of Henry Rogers and his wife Mahala Mariah. Here is where we get into one issue. A lot of people show Henry as John Henry, but there is no records that prove that was the case, so I will not use that. His wife is rumored to be a Rodgers, and I do have one family I think may be her lineage. I see trees out there with parents, but they have no source documentation. Remember to watch what you copy into your tree from ancestry.
Louisa Rogers was born 1842 in Hamilton County, TN. She was one of many children, her siblings were John Alexander, James Washington, Maranda, Edley Jackson, Henry, Lucinda, Joseph Jefferson, William Miles, Amey Ann and Susan Rogers. Her mother died around 1853 along with a sister and not long afterwards the family moved to Yell/Johnson areas of Arkansas near Mt. Magazine.
Henry Rogers was the second child of Joseph Rogers and his wife Susannah. Family researchers have her named Shue. I have blogged about Suzie in the past, you can find those posts here. A lot of what I am going to say I addressed in DNA discussions in posts from 2015 if you want to look back.
As for Mahala Mariah and her sister Mahala Amelia who married Edley, I have a theory. I believe it is possible that they are children of a John or William Rogers who lived in Hamilton county. He left a widow Mary and had the following verified children, George W. Rogers, Nancy Rogers Jackson (whose son married into Edley's family), and Miranda Rogers Jackson. If you look into Ephraim Hixson and Elisha Rodgers, these families are all related, the problem has been adequate records on the Rogers because of damages to the court houses.
Joseph Rogers and Susannah had four children, Lucinda, Louisa, Edley and Henry Rogers. We have had references to an 1842 court case verifying this for over 15 years (but never found an outcome). Joseph died by 1815 because Susannah and her new husband James Wallen were selling her dower portion of some land, the same land in the 1842 court case,
We don't know an age for Joseph, but he was at least 21 when he served as a witness on a deed in 1795. I suppose he was born sometime between 1765-1775. He was a son of Doswell (Dauswell) Rogers and his wife, who I believe DNA has proven is a daughter or relative of Elisha Wallen and Mary Blevins (DNA matching Blevins family alone on front half of a 74 cM segment, the rest matching descendants of that couple and descendants of Doswell Rogers from more than one child).
I blogged about that too.
Doswell Rogers Ydna has been linked to the Adduston Rogers and Catherine Doswell line from what I have been told. To be honest, I don't know those genealogies well enough, and the ydna listings aren't clear enough for me to give a path beyond Doswell.
We do share DNA with Thomas Rogers descendants who also names a son Doswell.
Joseph Rogers lived in Roane what would become Bledsoe (and later Hamilton) county TN. He also had records in Lee county, Virginia. Since a lot of what I would say was already written about, I will refer you to this post for information on the family of Joseph and Susanna.
After the death of Joseph, Susanna married James Wallen (a first cousin I believe of Joseph Rogers). She had several more children and records for the family are primarily located in McMinn county, TN. Her children with James were unknown son, Stephen Wallen, Thomas Wallen, John Wallen, Mary (Polly) Wallen Culpepper, and Nancy Wallen. We have triangulated DNA matches with descendants of Louisa Rogers and Henry Rogers with the descendants of Thomas Wallen. Additionally Thomas Wallen was a neighbor in Carroll county to Edley, Henry and Louisa Rogers.
Paxton Family
This is the last post covering my maternal grandmother's family. I will post each grandparent's ancestors as I have time. This one won't be long, because it is an area of my brick walls.
Emma Paxton the mother of Lee Roy Edward Hinds was born in 1853 in Jefferson County, NY. Her father was Benjamin Paxton and her mother was Mary Douglas. She is one of several siblings,
William Henry, Martha, Mary Matilda, Howard T., George Benjamin, Frank E, Minnie, Ida and Albert Paxton were all her full siblings. Her father married twice after the death of her mother. He had two children with his second wife, Lela Ethel and Cora May Paxton.
Benjamin Paxton is first found in 1850 in St. Lawrence County, NY. He was a cobbler. He has a sister in his home. In 1860 he is in Jefferson County, NY, and is again a cobbler. He enlisted in the Civil war, and that is where we first get some information. He gave his father's name as William Paxton and his mother's name as Mary Brown. He was born in either Buckingham or Birmingham England. Depends on which you read. He was born around 1823 and was supposed to have come over around the age of 8.
I can't find his parents in England. I can't find his emigration. I think Martha is his sister and she died in a pauper's home in the 1850's. His wife was in one place born in Canada and another in England. So I am not sure if he came to NY through Canada. So as you can see, there isn't much to blog about.
My great Aunt, a granddaughter of Emma Paxton is on gedmatch. If you come from any of the families I have blogged about, and would like to see if we match, leave a comment.
Emma Paxton the mother of Lee Roy Edward Hinds was born in 1853 in Jefferson County, NY. Her father was Benjamin Paxton and her mother was Mary Douglas. She is one of several siblings,
William Henry, Martha, Mary Matilda, Howard T., George Benjamin, Frank E, Minnie, Ida and Albert Paxton were all her full siblings. Her father married twice after the death of her mother. He had two children with his second wife, Lela Ethel and Cora May Paxton.
Benjamin Paxton is first found in 1850 in St. Lawrence County, NY. He was a cobbler. He has a sister in his home. In 1860 he is in Jefferson County, NY, and is again a cobbler. He enlisted in the Civil war, and that is where we first get some information. He gave his father's name as William Paxton and his mother's name as Mary Brown. He was born in either Buckingham or Birmingham England. Depends on which you read. He was born around 1823 and was supposed to have come over around the age of 8.
I can't find his parents in England. I can't find his emigration. I think Martha is his sister and she died in a pauper's home in the 1850's. His wife was in one place born in Canada and another in England. So I am not sure if he came to NY through Canada. So as you can see, there isn't much to blog about.
My great Aunt, a granddaughter of Emma Paxton is on gedmatch. If you come from any of the families I have blogged about, and would like to see if we match, leave a comment.
Hinds Family
My great grandfather Lee Roy Edward Hinds comes from a long line of colonial families on his paternal side. When I started out my grandmother told me that there was a book. Within a few years it was online, and I used it to start my research further back. It wasn't until recently that I verified it and worked on the female lines. Thus far, the books have proven to be if not a hundred percent accurate, pretty close.
I would encourage you if any of these families are yours to search archive.org or google for the family histories. I know several of the early families have one. It is a great starting point. If I vary it's because I have researched original documents and changed my information to reflect the information I found or interpreted.
Lee Roy Edward Hinds was the son of Francis Marion Hinds and Emma Paxton. He was born in Dekalb county, Illinois in a cabin. Francis and Emma spent around 12 years in Illinois before returning to New York. He went by Roy Hinds and he married my great grandmother, Elizabeth Ruth Timmins in the Episcopalian church of Syracuse in 1908. They had several children, Thelma, Ruth, Raymond, Warren, Orvis, Dolores and Helen. There was also a set of twins that she lost.
Roy and Elizabeth Hinds lived in Syracuse until their retirement when they moved to California. It was sometime in the 1950's that they moved there. Roy died in 1968. His wife Elizabeth died in 1982. Roy was a railroad engineer.
Francis Marion Hinds was born in 1847 in Pillar Point, NY. He was from his father's second wife. He enlisted and served in the Civil War from New York. In 1872 he married Emma Paxton whose family history will be discussed in a later blog. It is important to note that while Frank and Emma are mentioned in the Hinds family genealogy by Frank Hinds, their children are absent.
Francis and Emma had a large family, Cora Belle, Grace Ora, Thomas Watson, Emma Frances, Arthur Braten, Orvis Benjamin, Lee Roy Edward, Harry W., Sarah and Pearl M. Hinds. All of the family resided in either Syracuse or Oswego county, New York. Pearl the youngest child shared her birthday with her father. Their eldest daughter, Cora killed herself when she was 21 years old. Arthur and Grace had no children. Thomas had two children who were adopted out, and only one of those has been found.
Francis Hinds died in 1911, his widow Emma died in 1927. Francis was one of 7 children by Thomas William Hinds and his wife, Mary Crawford. Thomas' first wife was Chloe Fuller. Thomas William Hinds was born in Vermont in 1803 but resided for most of his life in Pillar Point, NY. His father, Thomas Hinds Sr along with a brother, Corliss Hinds served in the war of 1812 on the great lakes there. Thomas William Hinds died in 1877. His first wife Chloe Hinds died in 1841, his widow Mary died in 1902.
Francis Hinds full siblings were Albert Hinds (1904), Huldah Hinds Bird (1916), Phoebe Hinds Patrick (1894), Almira Hinds Bunker (1894), Mary Hinds Jackson (1905), and Minerva Hinds Roat (1912). His half siblings were Mary Hinds, Octavia Hinds (1841), Pitt Morse Hinds (1893), Austin Fuller Hinds (1916), Earl Hinds (1900) and William Watson Hinds (1860). The dates in parenthesis being the year of death.
Thomas William Hinds was the son of Thomas Hinds Sr and his wife Phebe Bent. Mary Crawford was the daughter of William Crawford and Huldah Wheeler. William Crawford was an Irish immigrant born in 1766. He had arrived in the United States no later than 1798 when he married Huldah Wheeler. Nothing more of his ancestry is known.
Huldah Wheeler came from similar colonial roots as the Hinds family did. She was born in 1778 in Tolland Connecticut to Timothy Wheeler and Rhoda Thomas. Timothy served in the American Revolution. His father was Josiah Wheeler and his mother was Elizabeth Blodgett. Josiah Wheelers parents were Isaac Wheeler and Sarah Howe. Sarah Howe's paternal grandfather is William Howe who is mentioned here.The Nutting family (Sarah's mother was Mary Nutting) also of Chelmsford Massachussetts has a long history. A blog discusses them here. http://earlynewenglandfamilies.blogspot.com/2012/02/nutting-family-of-new-england.html
Thomas Hinds Sr and Phebe Bent were the parents of 13 children. William Watson Hinds (1859), Thomas William Hinds (1877), Emily Hinds Poole (1826), Tamer Hinds Elmer (1846), Carrollus (Carlos) Hinds (1899), Earl Bent Hinds (1894), Phoebe Hinds, Silas Bent Hinds (1899), Albert Hinds (1887), Betsy Hinds, Patty Hinds, Mary Ann Hinds Williams, and Emily A Hinds (1842).
Thomas Hinds Sr was born in 1780 in Barre, Massachusetts to Corlis Hinds, Jr and Susannah Henry. He died in 1846 near Pillar Point, NY. His wife Phebe Bent was a daughter of David Bent and Phebe Whittemore. She was born in 1778 in Mount Holly, Vermont and died in 1841 near Pillar Point, NY. Her sister Mary was married to Corliss Hinds III, a brother of Thomas Hinds.
As the families are relatively large I am going to skip naming all of the children of each generation.
Corliss Hinds Jr was a son of Corliss Hinds Sr and Jeanette McMaster. He was born in 1748 in Brookfield, Massachusetts and died 1832 in Petersham, Massachusetts. His father Corliss Hinds Sr was born in 1724 in Brookfield, Massachusetts and died in 1821 in Brookfield. His mother Jeanette McMaster was 1730 and died in 1806 in Brookfield. She was a daughter of John McMaster and his wife Catherine.
Corliss Hinds Sr was a son of John Hinds and his wife, Hannah Corliss. John was born in 1683 in Lancaster, Mass. and died in 1747 in Brookfield. His wife Hannah was born in 1691 in Haverhill to John Corliss and Mary Wilford. Hannah died in 1764.
John Hinds and Mary Unknown were the parents of John Hinds. John the elder was born in 1638 to James Hinds and Mary Knight in Salem, Massachusetts. John Corliss the father of Hannah Corliss was born in 1648 in Haverhill to George Corliss and Joanna Davis. George and Joanna's marriage was the second marriage in the city. His wife Mary Wilford was born in 1667 a daughter of Gilbert Wilford and Mary Dow.
Phebe Bent's father David Bent was born in Rutland, Mass. in 1756 and he died in 1831. His father David Bent Jr was born in 1730 and died in 1798. His mother Lucy Moore was born in 1734 and died in 1783. Lucy Moore was the daughter of Peter Moore and Mary Goodenow. Mary Goodenow's parents were Edmund Goodenow and Rebecca Graves.
David Bent Jr was a son of David Bent Sr and Mary Drury. I have more back on that, but this post has gotten quite long.
I would encourage you if any of these families are yours to search archive.org or google for the family histories. I know several of the early families have one. It is a great starting point. If I vary it's because I have researched original documents and changed my information to reflect the information I found or interpreted.
Lee Roy Edward Hinds was the son of Francis Marion Hinds and Emma Paxton. He was born in Dekalb county, Illinois in a cabin. Francis and Emma spent around 12 years in Illinois before returning to New York. He went by Roy Hinds and he married my great grandmother, Elizabeth Ruth Timmins in the Episcopalian church of Syracuse in 1908. They had several children, Thelma, Ruth, Raymond, Warren, Orvis, Dolores and Helen. There was also a set of twins that she lost.
Roy and Elizabeth Hinds lived in Syracuse until their retirement when they moved to California. It was sometime in the 1950's that they moved there. Roy died in 1968. His wife Elizabeth died in 1982. Roy was a railroad engineer.
Francis Marion Hinds was born in 1847 in Pillar Point, NY. He was from his father's second wife. He enlisted and served in the Civil War from New York. In 1872 he married Emma Paxton whose family history will be discussed in a later blog. It is important to note that while Frank and Emma are mentioned in the Hinds family genealogy by Frank Hinds, their children are absent.
Francis and Emma had a large family, Cora Belle, Grace Ora, Thomas Watson, Emma Frances, Arthur Braten, Orvis Benjamin, Lee Roy Edward, Harry W., Sarah and Pearl M. Hinds. All of the family resided in either Syracuse or Oswego county, New York. Pearl the youngest child shared her birthday with her father. Their eldest daughter, Cora killed herself when she was 21 years old. Arthur and Grace had no children. Thomas had two children who were adopted out, and only one of those has been found.
Francis Hinds died in 1911, his widow Emma died in 1927. Francis was one of 7 children by Thomas William Hinds and his wife, Mary Crawford. Thomas' first wife was Chloe Fuller. Thomas William Hinds was born in Vermont in 1803 but resided for most of his life in Pillar Point, NY. His father, Thomas Hinds Sr along with a brother, Corliss Hinds served in the war of 1812 on the great lakes there. Thomas William Hinds died in 1877. His first wife Chloe Hinds died in 1841, his widow Mary died in 1902.
Francis Hinds full siblings were Albert Hinds (1904), Huldah Hinds Bird (1916), Phoebe Hinds Patrick (1894), Almira Hinds Bunker (1894), Mary Hinds Jackson (1905), and Minerva Hinds Roat (1912). His half siblings were Mary Hinds, Octavia Hinds (1841), Pitt Morse Hinds (1893), Austin Fuller Hinds (1916), Earl Hinds (1900) and William Watson Hinds (1860). The dates in parenthesis being the year of death.
Thomas William Hinds was the son of Thomas Hinds Sr and his wife Phebe Bent. Mary Crawford was the daughter of William Crawford and Huldah Wheeler. William Crawford was an Irish immigrant born in 1766. He had arrived in the United States no later than 1798 when he married Huldah Wheeler. Nothing more of his ancestry is known.
Huldah Wheeler came from similar colonial roots as the Hinds family did. She was born in 1778 in Tolland Connecticut to Timothy Wheeler and Rhoda Thomas. Timothy served in the American Revolution. His father was Josiah Wheeler and his mother was Elizabeth Blodgett. Josiah Wheelers parents were Isaac Wheeler and Sarah Howe. Sarah Howe's paternal grandfather is William Howe who is mentioned here.The Nutting family (Sarah's mother was Mary Nutting) also of Chelmsford Massachussetts has a long history. A blog discusses them here. http://earlynewenglandfamilies.blogspot.com/2012/02/nutting-family-of-new-england.html
Thomas Hinds Sr and Phebe Bent were the parents of 13 children. William Watson Hinds (1859), Thomas William Hinds (1877), Emily Hinds Poole (1826), Tamer Hinds Elmer (1846), Carrollus (Carlos) Hinds (1899), Earl Bent Hinds (1894), Phoebe Hinds, Silas Bent Hinds (1899), Albert Hinds (1887), Betsy Hinds, Patty Hinds, Mary Ann Hinds Williams, and Emily A Hinds (1842).
Thomas Hinds Sr was born in 1780 in Barre, Massachusetts to Corlis Hinds, Jr and Susannah Henry. He died in 1846 near Pillar Point, NY. His wife Phebe Bent was a daughter of David Bent and Phebe Whittemore. She was born in 1778 in Mount Holly, Vermont and died in 1841 near Pillar Point, NY. Her sister Mary was married to Corliss Hinds III, a brother of Thomas Hinds.
As the families are relatively large I am going to skip naming all of the children of each generation.
Corliss Hinds Jr was a son of Corliss Hinds Sr and Jeanette McMaster. He was born in 1748 in Brookfield, Massachusetts and died 1832 in Petersham, Massachusetts. His father Corliss Hinds Sr was born in 1724 in Brookfield, Massachusetts and died in 1821 in Brookfield. His mother Jeanette McMaster was 1730 and died in 1806 in Brookfield. She was a daughter of John McMaster and his wife Catherine.
Corliss Hinds Sr was a son of John Hinds and his wife, Hannah Corliss. John was born in 1683 in Lancaster, Mass. and died in 1747 in Brookfield. His wife Hannah was born in 1691 in Haverhill to John Corliss and Mary Wilford. Hannah died in 1764.
John Hinds and Mary Unknown were the parents of John Hinds. John the elder was born in 1638 to James Hinds and Mary Knight in Salem, Massachusetts. John Corliss the father of Hannah Corliss was born in 1648 in Haverhill to George Corliss and Joanna Davis. George and Joanna's marriage was the second marriage in the city. His wife Mary Wilford was born in 1667 a daughter of Gilbert Wilford and Mary Dow.
Phebe Bent's father David Bent was born in Rutland, Mass. in 1756 and he died in 1831. His father David Bent Jr was born in 1730 and died in 1798. His mother Lucy Moore was born in 1734 and died in 1783. Lucy Moore was the daughter of Peter Moore and Mary Goodenow. Mary Goodenow's parents were Edmund Goodenow and Rebecca Graves.
David Bent Jr was a son of David Bent Sr and Mary Drury. I have more back on that, but this post has gotten quite long.
Brampton Family
Sarah Brampton was my great grandmother's mother. After the death of her husband she took in boarders in Syracuse. I know they always lived in Solvay, and that her sons were forced to go to work as teenagers, but I am not sure if she remarried. I can't find her from 1905 until her obituary. Sarah Brampton married shortly before her death and died from complications of an appendectomy in Virginia while on her honeymoon.
Sarah and her husband were the parents of William Henry Timmins, Joseph Timmins and Elizabeth Ruth Timmins. Sarah was born in 1861 to Edward Brampton and Ruth Spicer of West Bromwich.
She immigrated to Syracuse in 1886 and died in 1926.
Edward Brampton was orphaned at an early age. While I am pretty sure I know who his father is, I have no idea who his mother is. I believe he is the son of William Brampton who died in 1832. We find Edward as Edwin Brampton in 1841 in the workhouse in Stanton Lacy, Shropshire age 12. Samuel Brampton who is also in the workhouse and is the same age is likely a brother.
In 1851 Edwin Brampton age 23 is found as a lodger in West Bromwich. He is a laborer and born in Ludlow, Shropshire. It is important to note that this is the last reference to an Edwin Brampton in records of the area, and there is never a mention of an Edward Brampton prior to this. In 1851 Ruth Spicer is listed as a servant with an illegitimate son, William Henry Spicer.
In 1854 Edward and Ruth marry. They have a large family, John Brampton who died in 1929 in West Bromwich, Samuel Brampton who died in 1938 in West Bromwich, Sarah Brampton Timmins, Mary Ann Brampton Moore who died in 1935, and Emma Brampton Carter who died in 1948. Ruth's son William Henry Spicer died in 1874.
Edward and Ruth are always found in a close area within West Bromwich. Edward's occupation was glass cutter. Edward died in 1915 and Ruth in 1901. Both are in unmarked graves.
Ruth was the daughter of John Spicer and Anna Hayfield or Haywood. Ruth was baptized in a nonconformist church in Oldbury by Halesowen that was Presbyterian. John was a coal miner born in either Oldbury or Dudley depending on the census. I believe his parents were Thomas Spicer and Hannah Ditheridge who were married at St. Thomas, Dudley in 1789.
John Spicer and his wife Anna (sometimes seen as Hannah) had the following children, Mary Ann, Hannah, Sarah Spicer Duern, John, Thomas and Ruth who was their youngest child. I haven't done much research on the other children of John and Hannah.
John's parents, Thomas and Hannah Spicer also had three daughters by baptism records. Elizabeth, Maria and Ruth Spicer. I have not researched them.
Hannah or Anna Hayfield I believe may be the daughter of John Hayfield and his wife Susannah, but I haven't found sufficient documentation on her as of yet.
I believe Edward or Edwin Brampton is the son of (perhaps illegitimate) William Brampton. He died in Ludlow in March of 1832. He was a son of John Brompton and Susan Edwards and was baptized in Ludlow in 1810.
I believe John Brompton or Brampton is a relative of Thomas Brampton. John and Susan had the following children, John, William, Eliza, Catherine and Frederick.
Sarah and her husband were the parents of William Henry Timmins, Joseph Timmins and Elizabeth Ruth Timmins. Sarah was born in 1861 to Edward Brampton and Ruth Spicer of West Bromwich.
She immigrated to Syracuse in 1886 and died in 1926.
Edward Brampton was orphaned at an early age. While I am pretty sure I know who his father is, I have no idea who his mother is. I believe he is the son of William Brampton who died in 1832. We find Edward as Edwin Brampton in 1841 in the workhouse in Stanton Lacy, Shropshire age 12. Samuel Brampton who is also in the workhouse and is the same age is likely a brother.
In 1851 Edwin Brampton age 23 is found as a lodger in West Bromwich. He is a laborer and born in Ludlow, Shropshire. It is important to note that this is the last reference to an Edwin Brampton in records of the area, and there is never a mention of an Edward Brampton prior to this. In 1851 Ruth Spicer is listed as a servant with an illegitimate son, William Henry Spicer.
In 1854 Edward and Ruth marry. They have a large family, John Brampton who died in 1929 in West Bromwich, Samuel Brampton who died in 1938 in West Bromwich, Sarah Brampton Timmins, Mary Ann Brampton Moore who died in 1935, and Emma Brampton Carter who died in 1948. Ruth's son William Henry Spicer died in 1874.
Edward and Ruth are always found in a close area within West Bromwich. Edward's occupation was glass cutter. Edward died in 1915 and Ruth in 1901. Both are in unmarked graves.
Ruth was the daughter of John Spicer and Anna Hayfield or Haywood. Ruth was baptized in a nonconformist church in Oldbury by Halesowen that was Presbyterian. John was a coal miner born in either Oldbury or Dudley depending on the census. I believe his parents were Thomas Spicer and Hannah Ditheridge who were married at St. Thomas, Dudley in 1789.
John Spicer and his wife Anna (sometimes seen as Hannah) had the following children, Mary Ann, Hannah, Sarah Spicer Duern, John, Thomas and Ruth who was their youngest child. I haven't done much research on the other children of John and Hannah.
John's parents, Thomas and Hannah Spicer also had three daughters by baptism records. Elizabeth, Maria and Ruth Spicer. I have not researched them.
Hannah or Anna Hayfield I believe may be the daughter of John Hayfield and his wife Susannah, but I haven't found sufficient documentation on her as of yet.
I believe Edward or Edwin Brampton is the son of (perhaps illegitimate) William Brampton. He died in Ludlow in March of 1832. He was a son of John Brompton and Susan Edwards and was baptized in Ludlow in 1810.
I believe John Brompton or Brampton is a relative of Thomas Brampton. John and Susan had the following children, John, William, Eliza, Catherine and Frederick.
Timmins family
As time permits, I will put some of the website information on the blog. This will be my first post, and it will center on my great grandmother Elizabeth Ruth Timmins and her ancestors.
Elizabeth Ruth Timmins was the first of her family to be born in the United States in October of 1889. Her mother and brothers immigrated from West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England in 1886. I haven't been able to find a port of entry for her father, but we know that her father, George Henry Timmins also immigrated.
Elizabeth was the youngest child, and only daughter of her parents, George Henry Timmins and Sarah Brampton. When Elizabeth was 2 years old, her father killed himself. I found a newspaper article on the coroner's inquest. George had malaria, and according to the article, when the doctor stepped out of the room, he opened the drawer took out a razor blade and slashed his throat. He was delirious at the time.
Around this time, George's brother came to live in Syracuse as well, his name was Joseph Timmins. Both George and Joseph had sons named William Henry Timmins close in age. An important consideration when researching. By 1905 a sister, Harriet Timmins Hinton and her family also immigrated to Syracuse. All of the family didn't apply to become citizens of the United States, citing their birth in Philadelphia. In reality, only George Henry was born in England, so in fact, my family were illegal immigrants.
George likely worked at the same factory as his brother, Solvay Processing Plant. In the 1920's Joseph Paxton, and his nephew (son of George and Sarah) Joseph Paxton both worked at the plant, were neighbors on the same street, and married women named Caroline Lakin. The difference being that Joseph (my great grandmother's brother) married the niece by marriage of the Caroline Lakin who married the elder Joseph.
It was baptismal records for the Episcopal church in Syracuse that first clued me in on the fact that the family was related. After I found a burial article for Joseph Timmins (elder) that listed my great grandfather as a pall bearer. Funny thing, my grandmother and her sister who gave me so much of the information I started with (accurate information too), never mentioned that their mother had cousins in the area.
In 1881 England, George Henry Timmins is living with his wife's parents in West Bromwich. His occupation was glass cutter.
George Henry Timmins was born in 1860 in West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England to Joseph Timmins and his wife Sarah Phillips. He was their eldest child. His siblings were Sarah Timmins Bayliss who died in 1908 in West Bromwich, Joseph Timmins who died in 1937 in Syracuse, Margaret Louise Timmins Simcox who died in 1932 in West Bromwich, and Harriet Timmins Hinton who died in 1963 in Syracuse.
Joseph Timmins was baptized in 1835 in Christ Church, West Bromwich. His parents were Thomas Timmins and Roseanna Hale. He married Sarah Phillips in 1858. He is found with his parents on the 1841 and 1851 census. In 1860 his son George is recorded born in West Bromwich, but he is absent on the 1861 census. I don't find Joseph and Sarah again until 1870, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
According to the 1870 census, all of the children were born in Philadelphia except George, so the family had immigrated sometime between 1860 and 1864. I only find one baptism record for the family in Philadelphia, that is for Harriet in 1871 in the St. Steven's Episcopal Church. From the records it is apparent that Joseph and his family were acquainted with his Uncle's family as they are witnesses for each other.
Joseph Timmins lives near his Uncle, Joseph Timmins and his Aunt, Hannah Timmins Bradley in Philadelphia. His occupation was as glass blower. When his Uncle Stephen dies, his will leaves his estate to various nieces and nephews. Among them is Joseph Timmins whose address matches that of our Joseph.
Joseph and his family returned to West Bromwich in the 1870's. I have not found a record of either trip on ship manifests. He may have returned home after his father's death in 1871. In 1881 we find Joseph with his family in West Bromwich where he and his family reside until his death in 1906.
His wife Sarah Phillips died in 1895. Sarah was the daughter of James Phillips and Hannah Emma Castle. Her paternal grandparents were John Phillips and Mary Shakespear. Her maternal grandparents were John Castle and Sarah Bates. The Phillip family came from Henley in Arden to West Bromwich in the 1850's. Prior to that they had lived in Wooten Warren and Beaudesert in Warwickshire.
Mary Shakespeare's father Thomas Shakespeare was an illegitimate child of Sarah Shakesepeare. He was born in Wooten Warren. I have contacted a Shakespeare researcher, and it's quite possible that these Shakespeare's are collaterally related to William Shakespeare in some degree.Thomas Shakespeare's wife was Elizabeth Marrell.
The Castle family came from Cow Honey Bourne and Aston Subedge, Glouchester. Hannah's father was John Castle and her mother was Sarah Bates.
Joseph Timmins was the eldest son of his parents Thomas Timmins and Roseanna (Rose Hannah possibly) Hale. He had the following siblings, William Timmins, James Timmins who died in 1901, Sarah Timmins Johnson who died in 1923 (she and her family were also in Philadelphia with her brother Joseph), Stephen Timmins who died in 1918 and Thomas Timmins who died in 1925.
I have not been able to accurately place Roseanna Hale with a family. I thought I had found her baptism, but it ended up that there was a good documentation to that particular Roseanna and it wasn't ours. I have pondered if the name should be Hall, but to no avail, I haven't found a variation of Rose, Roseanna, or Hannah that is for our family.
Thomas Timmins was baptized in Mares Green Independent church in West Bromwich in 1813. His parents are William Timmins and Esther Sadler. In 1841 an Edward Hale nearby the family maybe a clue on Roseannah. The family is found in West Bromwich on the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 census. He was listed as a laborer in 1841, 1851 and 1871. In 1861 he is listed as a watchman.
Mapping of the address locations for the families of Thomas and Joseph both show that the family lived within a few mile radius their hole lives. Most of the sons appear to have gone into the glass business, likely working at one of the factories, perhaps even the Chance Glass factory which was nearby. Thomas died in 1871 and his wife in 1876.
William Timmins and Esther Sadler were married in All Saints Church, West Bromwich in 1810. William was baptized in 1788 in Mares Green Independent as the son of Stephen Timmins and Sarah. As this is the same church that he himself baptized his children, I believe this is our William. Esther Sadler was baptized in 1790 in Halesowen, Worcester the daughter of William Sadler and Sarah (Hately).
William and Esther had several children, the children born prior to 1820 all were baptized in Mares Green Independent. It is from these baptisms that I have the following children, Sarah, Thomas, Emma, Hannah, William, David, Martha, Stephen, James and Elizabeth Sadler.
William died in the 1830's. I have 1839 recorded, but I am not sure that is the right date. The William Timmins who died in 1837 and left a will is not ours. Esther was acquitted of accepting stolen goods in West Bromwich in 1838. It is quite possible that he was already deceased by this time.
Esther is found in 1841 in West Bromwich with her children, David, Stephen, James and Elizabeth. Elizabeth is recorded in deaths that year, and Esther in 1846. I think that it is around this time that several of her children left England for Philadelphia. Of those that we can trace only Thomas, William and Martha remained in England. David, Stephen and Hannah are found in Philadelphia.
A thorough examination of the will of Stephen Timmins in Philadelphia may bring forth information on other descendants. I think that Williams parents may be Stephen Timmins and Sarah Bell. Esther Sadler's parents were William Sadler and Sarah Hately.
Elizabeth Ruth Timmins was the first of her family to be born in the United States in October of 1889. Her mother and brothers immigrated from West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England in 1886. I haven't been able to find a port of entry for her father, but we know that her father, George Henry Timmins also immigrated.
Elizabeth was the youngest child, and only daughter of her parents, George Henry Timmins and Sarah Brampton. When Elizabeth was 2 years old, her father killed himself. I found a newspaper article on the coroner's inquest. George had malaria, and according to the article, when the doctor stepped out of the room, he opened the drawer took out a razor blade and slashed his throat. He was delirious at the time.
Around this time, George's brother came to live in Syracuse as well, his name was Joseph Timmins. Both George and Joseph had sons named William Henry Timmins close in age. An important consideration when researching. By 1905 a sister, Harriet Timmins Hinton and her family also immigrated to Syracuse. All of the family didn't apply to become citizens of the United States, citing their birth in Philadelphia. In reality, only George Henry was born in England, so in fact, my family were illegal immigrants.
George likely worked at the same factory as his brother, Solvay Processing Plant. In the 1920's Joseph Paxton, and his nephew (son of George and Sarah) Joseph Paxton both worked at the plant, were neighbors on the same street, and married women named Caroline Lakin. The difference being that Joseph (my great grandmother's brother) married the niece by marriage of the Caroline Lakin who married the elder Joseph.
It was baptismal records for the Episcopal church in Syracuse that first clued me in on the fact that the family was related. After I found a burial article for Joseph Timmins (elder) that listed my great grandfather as a pall bearer. Funny thing, my grandmother and her sister who gave me so much of the information I started with (accurate information too), never mentioned that their mother had cousins in the area.
In 1881 England, George Henry Timmins is living with his wife's parents in West Bromwich. His occupation was glass cutter.
George Henry Timmins was born in 1860 in West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England to Joseph Timmins and his wife Sarah Phillips. He was their eldest child. His siblings were Sarah Timmins Bayliss who died in 1908 in West Bromwich, Joseph Timmins who died in 1937 in Syracuse, Margaret Louise Timmins Simcox who died in 1932 in West Bromwich, and Harriet Timmins Hinton who died in 1963 in Syracuse.
Joseph Timmins was baptized in 1835 in Christ Church, West Bromwich. His parents were Thomas Timmins and Roseanna Hale. He married Sarah Phillips in 1858. He is found with his parents on the 1841 and 1851 census. In 1860 his son George is recorded born in West Bromwich, but he is absent on the 1861 census. I don't find Joseph and Sarah again until 1870, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
According to the 1870 census, all of the children were born in Philadelphia except George, so the family had immigrated sometime between 1860 and 1864. I only find one baptism record for the family in Philadelphia, that is for Harriet in 1871 in the St. Steven's Episcopal Church. From the records it is apparent that Joseph and his family were acquainted with his Uncle's family as they are witnesses for each other.
Joseph Timmins lives near his Uncle, Joseph Timmins and his Aunt, Hannah Timmins Bradley in Philadelphia. His occupation was as glass blower. When his Uncle Stephen dies, his will leaves his estate to various nieces and nephews. Among them is Joseph Timmins whose address matches that of our Joseph.
Joseph and his family returned to West Bromwich in the 1870's. I have not found a record of either trip on ship manifests. He may have returned home after his father's death in 1871. In 1881 we find Joseph with his family in West Bromwich where he and his family reside until his death in 1906.
His wife Sarah Phillips died in 1895. Sarah was the daughter of James Phillips and Hannah Emma Castle. Her paternal grandparents were John Phillips and Mary Shakespear. Her maternal grandparents were John Castle and Sarah Bates. The Phillip family came from Henley in Arden to West Bromwich in the 1850's. Prior to that they had lived in Wooten Warren and Beaudesert in Warwickshire.
Mary Shakespeare's father Thomas Shakespeare was an illegitimate child of Sarah Shakesepeare. He was born in Wooten Warren. I have contacted a Shakespeare researcher, and it's quite possible that these Shakespeare's are collaterally related to William Shakespeare in some degree.Thomas Shakespeare's wife was Elizabeth Marrell.
The Castle family came from Cow Honey Bourne and Aston Subedge, Glouchester. Hannah's father was John Castle and her mother was Sarah Bates.
Joseph Timmins was the eldest son of his parents Thomas Timmins and Roseanna (Rose Hannah possibly) Hale. He had the following siblings, William Timmins, James Timmins who died in 1901, Sarah Timmins Johnson who died in 1923 (she and her family were also in Philadelphia with her brother Joseph), Stephen Timmins who died in 1918 and Thomas Timmins who died in 1925.
I have not been able to accurately place Roseanna Hale with a family. I thought I had found her baptism, but it ended up that there was a good documentation to that particular Roseanna and it wasn't ours. I have pondered if the name should be Hall, but to no avail, I haven't found a variation of Rose, Roseanna, or Hannah that is for our family.
Thomas Timmins was baptized in Mares Green Independent church in West Bromwich in 1813. His parents are William Timmins and Esther Sadler. In 1841 an Edward Hale nearby the family maybe a clue on Roseannah. The family is found in West Bromwich on the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 census. He was listed as a laborer in 1841, 1851 and 1871. In 1861 he is listed as a watchman.
Mapping of the address locations for the families of Thomas and Joseph both show that the family lived within a few mile radius their hole lives. Most of the sons appear to have gone into the glass business, likely working at one of the factories, perhaps even the Chance Glass factory which was nearby. Thomas died in 1871 and his wife in 1876.
William Timmins and Esther Sadler were married in All Saints Church, West Bromwich in 1810. William was baptized in 1788 in Mares Green Independent as the son of Stephen Timmins and Sarah. As this is the same church that he himself baptized his children, I believe this is our William. Esther Sadler was baptized in 1790 in Halesowen, Worcester the daughter of William Sadler and Sarah (Hately).
William and Esther had several children, the children born prior to 1820 all were baptized in Mares Green Independent. It is from these baptisms that I have the following children, Sarah, Thomas, Emma, Hannah, William, David, Martha, Stephen, James and Elizabeth Sadler.
William died in the 1830's. I have 1839 recorded, but I am not sure that is the right date. The William Timmins who died in 1837 and left a will is not ours. Esther was acquitted of accepting stolen goods in West Bromwich in 1838. It is quite possible that he was already deceased by this time.
Esther is found in 1841 in West Bromwich with her children, David, Stephen, James and Elizabeth. Elizabeth is recorded in deaths that year, and Esther in 1846. I think that it is around this time that several of her children left England for Philadelphia. Of those that we can trace only Thomas, William and Martha remained in England. David, Stephen and Hannah are found in Philadelphia.
A thorough examination of the will of Stephen Timmins in Philadelphia may bring forth information on other descendants. I think that Williams parents may be Stephen Timmins and Sarah Bell. Esther Sadler's parents were William Sadler and Sarah Hately.
Jennifer's Genealogical Realm is no more
I have been paying for a private website for over 15 years based on my family's genealogy. I have decided for multiple reasons to take it down.
I know that some people have used my information as a resource for several years. I apologize for any inconvenience. You can however, find the site on the wayback machine, it can be accessed here
I know that some people have used my information as a resource for several years. I apologize for any inconvenience. You can however, find the site on the wayback machine, it can be accessed here
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