Thursday, November 5, 2015

Recombination- Observations, questions and answers

I love using DNA to help with my genealogy. It isn't a replacement for genealogical research, it is a tool, but it is a fascinating tool at that. Thus far I have tested my parents, my first cousin, my mom's half first cousin, my grandfather's first cousin, my dad's second cousin once removed, his half first cousin once removed and a third cousin. What I am finding as far as how much DNA we all share is fascinating.

As I identify more segments to family lines, the pattern of inheritance appears so random. It certainly appears that some siblings are more genetically related than others. What we inherit from our parents is sometime a small amount of DNA from one ancestor, or the entire DNA on some segments.It is a lottery.

We have 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 great great grandparents, 32 great great great grandparents, 64 great great great great grandparents, 128 5th great grandparents and so on. While knowing your tree out to those 5th and 6th great grandparents definitely seems imperative in identifying DNA, so does having a full tree, in other words, you need to identify each generations siblings and do their DNA. Even then, a lot of the time, if you have a match that has a tree, you will look at it and be like, I don't see a connection.

Why? Well, human error I think it partly responsible for sure. I had to change names to the "wrong" names in my tree so that PAL would show up in her circle at ancestry DNA. Not every tree out there is right. From non parental events, to just plain bad research (or those lovely hints on ancestry. Why would you attach a record to a tree that is obviously wrong.)

So back to my trends. Let's look at the total cM's and how widely they vary among my testers. Using myself, each parent and a few of their largest matches (only one uses data from 23andme). Relationships in the table are the relationship to my parent.




Mom
Me
Her nephew
Her ½ cousin
1st cousin 1R
2nd cousin 1 R
Mom
NA
3549 cM
1929.5 cM
590.6 cM
580.4 cM
152 cM
Me
3549 cM
NA
1039.7 cM
214.1 cM
233.5 cM
126 cM
Her nephew
1929.5 cM
1039.7 cM
NA
230.3 cM
415.4 cM
81 cM
Her ½ cousin
590.6 cM
214.1 cM
230.3cM
NA
NA
NA
1st 1R
580.4 cM
233.5 cM
415.4 cM
NA
NA
NA
2nd 1 R
152cM
126 cM
81 cM
NA
NA
NA


From this table you can see that though my cousin and I are the same generation, we inherited differently. I share more with Mom’s 2nd cousin once removed from the maternal line (our 3rd cousin) and he shares almost as much as mom with her 1st cousin once removed (our 1st cousin twice removed).
Similarly, her half first cousin shares 83 cM with a 2nd cousin once removed and mom shares only 19 cM with the same person, though they are identically related, and her nephew shares 16 cM with the same person in a segment not shared with either. (Data not in table).


Dad
ME
½ 1st 1 r
2nd 1R
Dbl 2nd 1R
4th cousin
Dad
NA
3552 cM
209.6 cM
106.8 cM
370 cM
81 cM
Me
3552 cM
NA
61 cM
63.2 cM
220.3 cM
0
½ 1st 1 R
209.6 cM
61 cM
NA
47.7 cM
NA
NA
2nd 1 R
106.8 cM
63.2 cM
47.7 cM
NA
NA
NA
Dbl 2nd 1R
370 cM
220.3 cM
NA
NA
NA
NA
4th cousin
81 cM
0
NA
NA
NA
NA

Dad and his ½ 1st cousin once removed are the same relationship to his 2nd cousin once removed, yet he shares twice the DNA. He shares a large amount with his 4th cousin, yet I share none with the same person, and I only have about ¼ the DNA in common with his ½ 1st cousin once removed but ½ with his second cousin once removed and about 2/3 of the DNA with the double 2nd cousin once removed. 

What does this mean, it’s possible that we inherit less of one ancestor’s DNA than others. Until we can map an entire genome for one person we can’t be certain, but it certainly looks like DNA isn’t share and share alike. What we get is a mix match of DNA that often includes greater portion from one ancestor than another.



2 comments:

  1. It's always interesting to see how differ we connect to other family members. I've had two 1C1R tested and they are 2C to each other, one paternal aunt and 5 1c so far, all of us are related. But now that distant matches are coming up (only two I've connected so far) it's amazing how they match some of us vs. 0 for the others. That would include how I match up to distant (5C) matches but even my own aunt does not come up as a match.

    More interesting is dealing with my endogamous side and how I had a now confirmed 4C get DNA tested and she came back showing totally random segments to our common cousin. I was told that it was expected. But when you're dealing with unknown connections, how would you be able to map them out? It's just misleading and yet interesting at the same time.

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  2. So very true! I share 894.88 cM with one first cousin, and only 599.85 with another first cousin. Each is a daughter of two different sisters of my mother (no question). I also seem to have much closer DNA matches with one family line on my paternal side than others; perhaps because my great-grandmother's parents were first cousins?

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