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Tuesday, March 22, 2016
The Old Carroll Trace and Choctaw Missions
Here is another map I made. First I took locations from an article found in Carroll County genweb. Then I tried to place the Choctaw Missionary schools and some other points of interest that I knew for my Choctaw families.
I’d like to preface my comment first by saying that your blog entries focused around Choctaw genealogy, history, culture, and society have been invaluable to me in my research and I am surely in your debt, so... many thanks! Regarding your map: Awesome work! As a lifelong Central Mississippi resident I’m thoroughly familiar with its geography and wanted to throw out a few points I’ve noticed here. Folsom’s Pigeon Roost actually has large marker denoting its location being right on the Natchez Trace in Choctaw County above French but SOUTH of US Hwy 82. Also worth noting is that in US Federal Agent to the Choctaw, John McKee’s diary, he writes of spending the night at Folsom’s Pigeon Roost and writes its corollary Choctaw translation as being, “Pudge Noosa”.
I’d like to preface my comment first by saying that your blog entries focused around Choctaw genealogy, history, culture, and society have been invaluable to me in my research and I am surely in your debt, so... many thanks! Regarding your map: Awesome work! As a lifelong Central Mississippi resident I’m thoroughly familiar with its geography and wanted to throw out a few points I’ve noticed here. Folsom’s Pigeon Roost actually has large marker denoting its location being right on the Natchez Trace in Choctaw County above French but SOUTH of US Hwy 82. Also worth noting is that in US Federal Agent to the Choctaw, John McKee’s diary, he writes of spending the night at Folsom’s Pigeon Roost and writes its corollary Choctaw translation as being, “Pudge Noosa”. If you ever need anyone to do some “boots on the ground” research help here in Mississippi lemme know...
I have tried to build a google map with locaton (generally) of the mission schools, etc. Maybe we can work on that a bit? Not necessarily boots on ground, but always helpful when someone knows the area. I found some pictures of Lost Horse Creek (where Charles Juzan lived) online, and was thrilled!
Pigeon Roost is on the Natchez Trace near mile marker 187 between French Camp and SOUTH of US 82. There’s a big sign marker
Mathew Mission: you are really close with this one. The cemetery associated with the mission can be visited by taking old West Point road and turning north on to Muldrow rd; very near the intersection of Old West Point rd and US 45
Elliott was near modern day Holcomb, Ms in Grenada county
Bethel is on the Natchez Trace north of French camp and SOUTH of Folsom’s Pigeon Roost. Mile marker 176 if memory serves
There is also a Vaughn Creek in extrem NE Yazoo county running N to S in to Big Black (Bok/Bogue Lusa/loosa)
Mushulatubbee is said to have been born in Noxubbee county (strangely locals say the same of Pushmataha as well). However I do know for a fact where Tecumseh camped near Brooksville near the Noxubbe/Oktibbeha/Lowndes border after Push stymied his chance to stir the Choctaw to his cause.
I’d like to preface my comment first by saying that your blog entries focused around Choctaw genealogy, history, culture, and society have been invaluable to me in my research and I am surely in your debt, so... many thanks!
ReplyDeleteRegarding your map: Awesome work! As a lifelong Central Mississippi resident I’m thoroughly familiar with its geography and wanted to throw out a few points I’ve noticed here. Folsom’s Pigeon Roost actually has large marker denoting its location being right on the Natchez Trace in Choctaw County above French but SOUTH of US Hwy 82. Also worth noting is that in US Federal Agent to the Choctaw, John McKee’s diary, he writes of spending the night at Folsom’s Pigeon Roost and writes its corollary Choctaw translation as being, “Pudge Noosa”.
Thanks again for your all you do!
I’d like to preface my comment first by saying that your blog entries focused around Choctaw genealogy, history, culture, and society have been invaluable to me in my research and I am surely in your debt, so... many thanks!
ReplyDeleteRegarding your map: Awesome work! As a lifelong Central Mississippi resident I’m thoroughly familiar with its geography and wanted to throw out a few points I’ve noticed here. Folsom’s Pigeon Roost actually has large marker denoting its location being right on the Natchez Trace in Choctaw County above French but SOUTH of US Hwy 82. Also worth noting is that in US Federal Agent to the Choctaw, John McKee’s diary, he writes of spending the night at Folsom’s Pigeon Roost and writes its corollary Choctaw translation as being, “Pudge Noosa”.
If you ever need anyone to do some “boots on the ground” research help here in Mississippi lemme know...
I have tried to build a google map with locaton (generally) of the mission schools, etc. Maybe we can work on that a bit? Not necessarily boots on ground, but always helpful when someone knows the area. I found some pictures of Lost Horse Creek (where Charles Juzan lived) online, and was thrilled!
DeletePigeon Roost is on the Natchez Trace near mile marker 187 between French Camp and SOUTH of US 82. There’s a big sign marker
ReplyDeleteMathew Mission: you are really close with this one. The cemetery associated with the mission can be visited by taking old West Point road and turning north on to Muldrow rd; very near the intersection of Old West Point rd and US 45
Elliott was near modern day Holcomb, Ms in Grenada county
Bethel is on the Natchez Trace north of French camp and SOUTH of Folsom’s Pigeon Roost. Mile marker 176 if memory serves
There is also a Vaughn Creek in extrem NE Yazoo county running N to S in to Big Black (Bok/Bogue Lusa/loosa)
Mushulatubbee is said to have been born in Noxubbee county (strangely locals say the same of Pushmataha as well). However I do know for a fact where Tecumseh camped near Brooksville near the Noxubbe/Oktibbeha/Lowndes border after Push stymied his chance to stir the Choctaw to his cause.
Hope this helps!